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Tom Kunich

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Dec 29, 2022, 3:26:59 PM12/29/22
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After the Communists here proclaiming that I was lying about a roast costing that much the Lucky Supermarket sales sheet came around yesterday and the SALE price of a BONE IN tri tip Roast was $13/lb.

People like Krygowski and his cohorts will be actually reduced to eating bug to get protein before long I'll remember them when I'm eating a sirloin steak.

Frank Krygowski

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Dec 29, 2022, 3:43:11 PM12/29/22
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On 12/29/2022 3:26 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> After the Communists here proclaiming that I was lying about a roast costing that much the Lucky Supermarket sales sheet came around yesterday and the SALE price of a BONE IN tri tip Roast was $13/lb.

Whatever. Your original claim was "I went into the local supermarket
yesterday and a SMALL roast cost $123." You never said how small. Did
you mean 9.5 pounds is small? Really?

FWIW, if I wanted beef at $13 per pound, I wouldn't bat an eye; I'd just
buy it. You're the only one here who ever whines about the cost of
groceries. In fact, you've retired the r.b.tech record for whining.

Such a miserable person!

--
- Frank Krygowski

funkma...@hotmail.com

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Dec 29, 2022, 4:26:03 PM12/29/22
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On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 3:26:59 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> After the Communists here proclaiming that I was lying about a roast costing that much the Lucky Supermarket sales sheet came around yesterday and the SALE price of a BONE IN tri tip Roast was $13/lb.
>
> People like Krygowski and his cohorts will be actually reduced to eating bug to get protein before long I'll remember them when I'm eating a sirloin steak.

You said a "small" roast, asshat.

A 3 pound roast would be $39. In order to be $123 it would have to be over 9#. A 9 pound roast is by NO means "a small roast". A 3 # roast will feed a family of 4 with leftovers for a few days.

Here's one of our local chains:
https://www.shaws.com/shop/aisles/meat-seafood/beef/beef-whole-cuts-roasts.2653.html?page=1&sort=&price=100%20TO%20499%2E99

They have two offerings over $100 - a monstrous 18# @ 8.99/#, and a 6# @ 17.99/#

A 6 pound roast isn't small either.

But just think how much money yo can make off it! I'm about ready to follow your advice and buy Andrew Zatlin’s "foodflation" protection kit, WE'll all be rich!!!!!
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/G6e0fRFsYcI/m/FoG8UcTbAwAJ

Sorry tommy, you aren't convincing anyone of your food-pocalypse. BTW - your email address is embedded in the link you posted. And you wonder why you get hacked? What fucking moron.

Catrike Rider

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Dec 29, 2022, 5:37:42 PM12/29/22
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Kerygowski says the 8% inflation is no big deal... That's what
gibberish Joe and the leftist media tells him and he follows along
like the good little group thinker he is.

Jeff Liebermann

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Dec 29, 2022, 5:41:10 PM12/29/22
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 13:26:01 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
<funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 3:26:59 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> After the Communists here proclaiming that I was lying about a roast costing that much the Lucky Supermarket sales sheet came around yesterday and the SALE price of a BONE IN tri tip Roast was $13/lb.

You always lie. Not a problem. I'm used to it.
If you want to be believable, provide a link to the item you're
complaining about, or a photograph with the price visible, or some
other way of proving that you're telling the truth. Don't worry about
using Google. I doubt that they would turn you into a communist.

>You said a "small" roast, asshat.
>A 3 pound roast would be $39. In order to be $123 it would have to be over 9#. A 9 pound roast is by NO means "a small roast". A 3 # roast will feed a family of 4 with leftovers for a few days.
>
>Here's one of our local chains:
>https://www.shaws.com/shop/aisles/meat-seafood/beef/beef-whole-cuts-roasts.2653.html?page=1&sort=&price=100%20TO%20499%2E99

The local Safeway Supermarket has it for approximately $170.90 /ea:
"USDA Choice Beef Ribeye Roast Bone In - Weight Between 8-11 Lb"
<https://www.safeway.com/shop/product-details.960109430.html>

Hint: Prices are higher during the holiday season. Afterwards, they
go on sale for much less.

--
Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

sms

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Dec 29, 2022, 5:55:14 PM12/29/22
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On 12/29/2022 1:26 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 3:26:59 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> After the Communists here proclaiming that I was lying about a roast costing that much the Lucky Supermarket sales sheet came around yesterday and the SALE price of a BONE IN tri tip Roast was $13/lb.

Here is the current ad from Lucky, with the store location set to Tom's
town, see: <https://i.imgur.com/SqM8cC2.jpeg>. $3.99/pound for tri-tip
roast. On another page of the flyer, tri-tip ranges from $4.99 to $5.99
per pound, see <https://i.imgur.com/w025PqP.jpeg>.

USDA Choice Tri-tip is generally on sale for $2.99 to $4.99 per pound at
Safeway or Lucky or Raley's/Nob Hill since it's a lower quality cut of meat.

Perhaps Tom was referring to the Ribeye roast which is advertised at
$12.99 per pound at Lucky, but that is very different than tri-tip. Last
week, Safeway had Ribeye roasts on sale for $5.99/lb (see
<https://i.imgur.com/lniZoMc.jpg>). It's important that Tom learn how to
shop for beef, which can vary wildly in price from store to store and
from week to week.

The key to spending less on groceries is to watch for sale ads at the
legacy supermarkets, plus shop at the local Chinese, Indian, and Mexican
markets where the prices are far lower than Lucky or Safeway on produce.
Costco is good for a lot of stuff as well.

I spend about $120 per week on groceries for my wife and I, and I don't
skimp.



John B.

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Dec 29, 2022, 6:04:00 PM12/29/22
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Eat Bugs? Again you demonstrate your ignorance as you can get protein
from broccoli, spinach, asparagus, artichokes, potatoes, sweet
potatoes, and Brussels sprouts, among others.
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Cheers,

John B.

sms

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Dec 29, 2022, 6:32:32 PM12/29/22
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FWIW, sirloin steak is also generally available for $5 a pound or so.
Tomorrow at Safeway it's USDA Choice boneless top sirloin is $5 per
pound in the Value Pack. It freezes well if you use one of those vacuum
sealer machines. Sirloin is a less expensive cut of beef, generally only
a little more than tri-tip. It's prime rib that's expensive.

Tom needs to learn how to shop for groceries if he's on a fixed income
and needs to watch his spending.

Tom Kunich

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Dec 29, 2022, 6:44:52 PM12/29/22
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I guess that Krygowski has no Family or at least none that would want to be around him. A 10 lb roast shrinks a great deal when cooked but then that is rather a reflection on Frank's gastronomical ignorance. the original schedule was for the whole family to be at Christmas dinner and while that changed because one of the babies was sick and others had been exposed to covid, there were still three of the six children, their significant others, a grand child ad three family friends that had no family in the US. For Krygowski whose education didn't include math that complex, was 11 of the expected 18. So idiot Frank believes that about 8 lbs. of meat is an overwhelming amount for 18 people. And he is so stupid he thinks after Christmas sales are representative of Pre-Christmas pricing.

Leave it to a person nobody wants to be around to judge meal sizes. No wonder he couldn't get real work. He has no connection to reality

Frank Krygowski

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Dec 29, 2022, 7:37:17 PM12/29/22
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On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 5:55:14 PM UTC-5, sms wrote:
> It's important that Tom learn how to
> shop for beef, which can vary wildly in price from store to store and
> from week to week.

That may be important to Tom, given his (apparently) desperate financial situation.
My mother, like many raised during the depression, knew how to shop for bargains.
She would travel from store to store to get the best buys.

I simply don't worry about prices. My wife and I shop at what's considered the most
expensive nearby grocery store. Why? Because it's the most pleasant one to ride a
bike to. (Well, there's another that's also a nice ride, but its quality is lower.) I don't
even know what we're paying per pound for beef, or for anything else. It doesn't matter.
I can easily afford it.

- Frank Krygowski

Frank Krygowski

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Dec 29, 2022, 7:42:46 PM12/29/22
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On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 6:44:52 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I guess that Krygowski has no Family or at least none that would want to be around him. A 10 lb roast shrinks a great deal when cooked but then that is rather a reflection on Frank's gastronomical ignorance. the original schedule was for the whole family to be at Christmas dinner and while that changed because one of the babies was sick and others had been exposed to covid, there were still three of the six children, their significant others, a grand child ad three family friends that had no family in the US. For Krygowski whose education didn't include math that complex, was 11 of the expected 18. So idiot Frank believes that about 8 lbs. of meat is an overwhelming amount for 18 people. And he is so stupid he thinks after Christmas sales are representative of Pre-Christmas pricing.

What the hell? You're throwing a Christmas dinner for your family and you're
whining about price? When we do that, we buy the best. We don't try to pinch pennies.

Tom, next Christmas just serve them baloney sandwiches. Tell them it's all you can
afford, because nobody wants to buy the frankenbikes you're churning on Craigslist.

- Frank Krygowski

Jeff Liebermann

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Dec 29, 2022, 8:54:33 PM12/29/22
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 12:26:57 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>People like Krygowski and his cohorts will be actually reduced to eating bug to get protein before long I'll remember them when I'm eating a sirloin steak.

Reduced to eating bugs? I like eating "bugs".
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entomophagy_in_humans>
<https://www.amazon.com/edible-insects/s?k=edible+insects>
<https://www.google.com/search?q=edible+bugs&tbm=isch>
My current favorites are roasted crickets and dried mealworms.
<https://www.google.com/search?q=roast+crickets&tbm=isch>
<https://www.google.com/search?q=dried+mealworms&tbm=isch>
I had to give up on chocolate covered ants and crickets.

"If we want to save the planet, the future of food is insects"
<https://www.theguardian.com/food/2021/may/08/if-we-want-to-save-the-planet-the-future-of-food-is-insects>

If not insects, perhaps plant based meats:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=plant+based+meat>
<https://www.tasteofhome.com/collection/vegetarian-brand-names/>

If I need a hamburger fix, I buy Boca Burger:
<https://www.bocaburger.com>
<https://www.safeway.com/shop/product-details.148010287.html>
$5.50 for 4 patties.

About once a year, I feel a craving for a McDonald's burger, french
fries and a soda. It really tastes good, but I always end up with a
major stomach ache an hour or two later. Most other beef products
have the same effect. Apparently, I have to teach my digestive system
how to tolerate meat.

John B.

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Dec 29, 2022, 10:32:38 PM12/29/22
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 17:54:25 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
wrote:
Re the bugs. Tommy accused me of eating bugs and yes, Thai's do eat
bugs. But not as a part of their normal diet, rather they eat them
fried, or cooked in some manner, as a sort of "nibble" food, rather as
USians eat potato chips.
For people that abhor eating bugs take a magnifying glass and look at
a scorpion... and then look at a lobster -
https://qualityseafooddelivery.com/lobster/meat/#Fulton_Fish_Market_Lobster_Meat_for_Sale_at_149982lbs_Shipped_Free_Delivery

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Cheers,

John B.

Catrike Rider

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Dec 30, 2022, 3:30:10 AM12/30/22
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We live well within our means, too, but many in the USA do not.
Inflation is a real problem, even if the politicians, the media, and
leftist clowns downplay it.

John B.

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Dec 30, 2022, 4:19:40 AM12/30/22
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Well, logic would have it that "if you can't afford roast beef then
buy something cheaper"

I did note however that turkey, the traditional Christmas Dinner main
course (at least where I came from) is substantially cheaper then a
beef roast.
--
Cheers,

John B.

Catrike Rider

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Dec 30, 2022, 4:58:03 AM12/30/22
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 16:19:28 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I bought a nice 4 lb standing rib roast a few days ago and noted that
it was a bit lower price per pound than the 95% ground beef I had in
the freezer that I'd bought a week earlier.

funkma...@hotmail.com

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Dec 30, 2022, 9:23:45 AM12/30/22
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On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 5:37:42 PM UTC-5, Catrike Rider wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 15:43:07 -0500, Frank Krygowski
> <frkr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >On 12/29/2022 3:26 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >> After the Communists here proclaiming that I was lying about a roast costing that much the Lucky Supermarket sales sheet came around yesterday and the SALE price of a BONE IN tri tip Roast was $13/lb.
> >
> >Whatever. Your original claim was "I went into the local supermarket
> >yesterday and a SMALL roast cost $123." You never said how small. Did
> >you mean 9.5 pounds is small? Really?
> >
> >FWIW, if I wanted beef at $13 per pound, I wouldn't bat an eye; I'd just
> >buy it. You're the only one here who ever whines about the cost of
> >groceries. In fact, you've retired the r.b.tech record for whining.
> >
> >Such a miserable person!
> Kerygowski says the 8% inflation is no big deal...

He did? I must have missed that.

> That's what
> gibberish Joe and the leftist media tells him and he follows along
> like the good little group thinker he is.

Biden never said that, non one in his administration ever said that. The lemming thought process is from you buying into whatever trash the right wing media feeds you.

sms

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Dec 30, 2022, 9:27:23 AM12/30/22
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On 12/29/2022 5:54 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

<snip>

> If I need a hamburger fix, I buy Boca Burger:
> <https://www.bocaburger.com>
> <https://www.safeway.com/shop/product-details.148010287.html>
> $5.50 for 4 patties.

Those are awful! If you want a beef alternative, try a black bean
burger. I tried an Impossible Whopper once, which was okay, though not
as good as a beef Whopper.

> About once a year, I feel a craving for a McDonald's burger, french
> fries and a soda. It really tastes good, but I always end up with a
> major stomach ache an hour or two later. Most other beef products
> have the same effect. Apparently, I have to teach my digestive system
> how to tolerate meat.

Just don't pay $13/pound for tri-tip. That will really give you a
stomachache.

funkma...@hotmail.com

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Dec 30, 2022, 9:30:25 AM12/30/22
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On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 6:44:52 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I guess that Krygowski has no Family or at least none that would want to be around him. A 10 lb roast shrinks a great deal when cooked

only if you buy a really cheap brand.

> but then that is rather a reflection on Frank's gastronomical ignorance

Said the liar claiming a tri tip roast was $13/#


.>the original schedule was for the whole family to be at Christmas dinner and while that changed because one of the babies was sick and others had been exposed to covid, there were still three of the six children, their significant others, a grand child ad three family friends that had no family in the US. For Krygowski whose education didn't include math that complex, was 11 of the expected 18. So idiot Frank believes that about 8 lbs. of meat is an overwhelming amount for 18 people. And he is so stupid he thinks after Christmas sales are representative of Pre-Christmas pricing.

Quite the strawman you built up there sparky. It's gonna go up in flames quite spectacularly

>
> Leave it to a person nobody wants to be around to judge meal sizes. No wonder he couldn't get real work. He has no connection to reality

Tommy not only has the RBT record for whining, but for breaking irony meters as well

sms

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Dec 30, 2022, 9:48:38 AM12/30/22
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On 12/30/2022 1:19 AM, John B. wrote:

<snip>

> Well, logic would have it that "if you can't afford roast beef then
> buy something cheaper"

I typically do my grocery shopping on Friday because that's when the
best prices are available in my area. I only have to do one trip,
stopping at stores close to each other: Lucky, Foothill Produce, Trader
Joe's, Safeway.

We definitely don't skimp on food, but we don't needlessly throw money
away either.

To be fair to Tom, I think that he looked at the high price for rib-eye
and mistakenly believed that it was the price for tri-tip, (or he
doesn't know the difference). The same flyer that Tom referred to shows
both rib-eye and tri-tip on the same page
<https://i.imgur.com/w025PqP.jpeg> though the front page of the flyer
shows tri-tip for even less <https://i.imgur.com/SqM8cC2.jpeg>. Nothing
wrong with tri-tip, prepared properly it's great.

Even with inflation, our grocery spending has not increased by much. A
few things have gone up by 10%, like dairy products, but in-season
produce has not gone up.

Frank Krygowski

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Dec 30, 2022, 9:57:51 AM12/30/22
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On 12/30/2022 9:48 AM, sms wrote:
> On 12/30/2022 1:19 AM, John B. wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Well, logic would have it that "if you can't afford roast beef then
>> buy something cheaper"
>
> I typically do my grocery shopping on Friday because that's when the
> best prices are available in my area. I only have to do one trip,
> stopping at stores close to each other: Lucky, Foothill Produce, Trader
> Joe's, Safeway.

I can't imagine bothering to do that.

We go to one grocery store. We buy what we need. We don't compare
prices, we don't worry about saving a buck here or there; we can afford
all the food we'd ever want to eat. We're never going to be at risk of
hunger, barring total societal meltdown.

I know Tom is predicting total societal meltdown, but Tom lives in a
truly horrible universe.

--
- Frank Krygowski

funkma...@hotmail.com

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Dec 30, 2022, 10:22:28 AM12/30/22
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On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 9:48:38 AM UTC-5, sms wrote:
> On 12/30/2022 1:19 AM, John B. wrote:
>
> <snip>
> > Well, logic would have it that "if you can't afford roast beef then
> > buy something cheaper"
> I typically do my grocery shopping on Friday because that's when the
> best prices are available in my area. I only have to do one trip,
> stopping at stores close to each other: Lucky, Foothill Produce, Trader
> Joe's, Safeway.
>
> We definitely don't skimp on food, but we don't needlessly throw money
> away either.
>
> To be fair to Tom, I think that he looked at the high price for rib-eye
> and mistakenly believed that it was the price for tri-tip, (or he
> doesn't know the difference). The same flyer that Tom referred to shows
> both rib-eye and tri-tip on the same page

IT would take a rather spectacular idiot to make that mistake.....

funkma...@hotmail.com

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Dec 30, 2022, 10:25:52 AM12/30/22
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I can't imagine living the hell he lives in. I'm not saying my area isn't without it's problems, but it certainly is orders of magnitude better than the world tommy lives in.

sms

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Dec 30, 2022, 10:29:23 AM12/30/22
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On 12/30/2022 6:30 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 6:44:52 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:

<snip>

> .>the original schedule was for the whole family to be at Christmas dinner and while that changed because one of the babies was sick and others had been exposed to covid, there were still three of the six children, their significant others, a grand child ad three family friends that had no family in the US. For Krygowski whose education didn't include math that complex, was 11 of the expected 18. So idiot Frank believes that about 8 lbs. of meat is an overwhelming amount for 18 people. And he is so stupid he thinks after Christmas sales are representative of Pre-Christmas pricing.
>
> Quite the strawman you built up there sparky. It's gonna go up in flames quite spectacularly

Especially because the pre-Christmas price for actual Rib-Eye was $5.99
per pound at the largest supermarket chain in the area, Safeway
<https://i.imgur.com/lniZoMc.jpg>. Safeway is closer to his house than
Lucky.



Tom Kunich

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Dec 30, 2022, 10:59:11 AM12/30/22
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I had to know what that was all about and I called a friend and he sent me Scharf's posting. I did make one mistake. I said "Tri-Tip" when the expensive roast was a Ribeye. And directly down the page from the partial quotation of Scharf, sure enough, like all lying sons of bitches, there it was plain as day "Ribeye Roast $12.99/lb"

Should I be surprised that Scharf like all political wannabes lied about it because he thought he could get away with it by simply not showing the whole sale page?

So now we see exactly what Scharf is.

As for Frank, let's watch what he has to say in the next 18 months as inflation continues right through the middle of a recession that some are predicting to be a depression. Frank is on what is termed "fixed income" whereas I make money from my investments every month usually. When I said that I made $12,000 on my investments the previous month I didn't mention that I made $20,000 the previous month. December I don't expect to be any income. But the report is due in a week or so.

Presently the major bike manufacturers are having LOTS of trouble paying their suppliers and this is why they are having problems supplying their dealers with what they are asking for. How do you think a shop likes ordering 5 Madones and getting 3 lower end aluminum bikes? Trek is buying out Trek dealers and they can't even supply their own company stores with the top end bikes they need.

So let's see Krygowski with his idiotic claims that his mother grew up in the depression. So did my mother and father in case he forgets. I was born during the war rationing and it took until the Korean War before things started getting available.

Now we know that Frank rides his tandem 5 miles through sleet and snow to do his shopping because it is a good ride and he doesn't pay any attention to the price of food. I would bet that his wife would have something else to say about that. Didn't Frank tell us a couple months ago that he was through riding for the season?

So now not only Scharf but Krygowski are shown as total liars that do so because they think that they can get away with it.

Tom Kunich

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Dec 30, 2022, 11:07:56 AM12/30/22
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https://www.luckysupermarkets.com/flyers/190666/print

Lucky is a middle end supermarket. I know a butcher shop that is cheaper and higher quality but they were closed for the holidays. In general, a roast is not a particularly good cut. They have a good taste because they are highly marbled (lots of fat in the meat) This melt while cooking and reduces the size of the roast. 80-20 hamburger can be made out of this. Sirloin and Tri-tip are tough as leather unless carefully cooked.

funkma...@hotmail.com

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Dec 30, 2022, 11:19:33 AM12/30/22
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Tommy's whole point was to make a ridiculous claim and say it proves his point that people he doesn't like are ruining the country. I suspect he knew full well the numbers he posted were bogus, now he got caught and he's ranting like a lunatic as if it it would give him any more credibility.

funkma...@hotmail.com

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Dec 30, 2022, 11:34:40 AM12/30/22
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On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 10:59:11 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I had to know what that was all about and I called a friend and he sent me Scharf's posting.

HAH!. Bullshit. You read it right here, just like you always do.

> I did make one mistake. I said "Tri-Tip" when the expensive roast was a Ribeye. And directly down the page from the partial quotation of Scharf, sure enough, like all lying sons of bitches, there it was plain as day "Ribeye Roast $12.99/lb"

No one lied except you, shithead. Everyone that checked your claim explicitly stated that the ribeye was listed at 12.99. You didn't make a mistake. You knew there were plenty of much more affordable offereing and claimed the cheaper cut was at the higher price. You're not fooling anyone.

> Should I be surprised that Scharf like all political wannabes lied about it because he thought he could get away with it by simply not showing the whole sale page?

He _did_ show the whole page you lying piece of shit.

>
> So now we see exactly what Scharf is.

Yes, we do. He tells the truth, unlike you.

>
> As for Frank, let's watch what he has to say in the next 18 months as inflation continues right through the middle of a recession that some are predicting to be a depression. Frank is on what is termed "fixed income" whereas I make money from my investments every month usually. When I said that I made $12,000 on my investments the previous month I didn't mention that I made $20,000 the previous month. December I don't expect to be any income. But the report is due in a week or so.

Jute list
2. Repeatedly accusing people of being on welfare. He worries that he'll end up on welfare.
Mister Andre Jute McCoy, a writer of vanity novels and diarrhea-mouthed, long winded poster to the Usenet - where he pretends to be famous.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bandon,_County_Cork&oldid=127907139#People

>
> Presently the major bike manufacturers are having LOTS of trouble paying their suppliers and this is why they are having problems supplying their dealers with what they are asking for. How do you think a shop likes ordering 5 Madones and getting 3 lower end aluminum bikes? Trek is buying out Trek dealers and they can't even supply their own company stores with the top end bikes they need.

Let's ask Andrew about the plausibility of that scenario - Andrew, how likely is it that a shop would order 5 madones and be forced to take delivery of three low-end aluminum bikes instead? Serious question - I don't work in the retail bike industry (haven't even wrenched at a shop for almost 20 years) so I'm not aware of the current dynamic.

>
> So let's see Krygowski with his idiotic claims that his mother grew up in the depression.

Why is it idiotic?

> Now we know that Frank rides his tandem 5 miles through sleet and snow to do his shopping because it is a good ride

Where did he write that?

> and he doesn't pay any attention to the price of food. I would bet that his wife would have something else to say about that.

> Didn't Frank tell us a couple months ago that he was through riding for the season?
>
> So now not only Scharf but Krygowski are shown as total liars that do so because they think that they can get away with it.

The only liar that's been exposed here is you.

sms

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Dec 30, 2022, 12:35:58 PM12/30/22
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On 12/30/2022 7:25 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:

<snip>

> I can't imagine living the hell he lives in. I'm not saying my area isn't without it's problems, but it certainly is orders of magnitude better than the world tommy lives in.

It's not the area that he lives in, it's that he doesn't understand what
is available, at what price, where. Yet I'm sure he gets the same flyers
in the mail every Monday or Tuesday that I get. Also, it's hard to
imagine him stepping into an Indian, Chinese, or Mexican supermarket,
which abound in the Bay Area.

It's not possible for me to do all the weekly shopping at one store
because regardless of price no store has all the items we want. Some
items are only available at Asian supermarkets and some are only sold at
Costco (and some only at specific Costcos). One item is only available
at Whole Foods, where I hate going, a comedian has a good bit on it
<https://i.imgur.com/wUhPPJz.png>.

sms

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Dec 30, 2022, 12:52:35 PM12/30/22
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On 12/30/2022 8:34 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:

<snip>

> > I did make one mistake. I said "Tri-Tip" when the expensive roast was a Ribeye. And directly down the page from the partial quotation of Scharf, sure enough, like all lying sons of bitches, there it was plain as day "Ribeye Roast $12.99/lb"
>
> No one lied except you, shithead. Everyone that checked your claim explicitly stated that the ribeye was listed at 12.99. You didn't make a mistake. You knew there were plenty of much more affordable offereing and claimed the cheaper cut was at the higher price. You're not fooling anyone.

Not everyone is familiar with the different cuts of meat. For some "beef
is beef" and they don't understand that rib-eye is more premium cut and
tri-tip is a cheaper cut.

>> Should I be surprised that Scharf like all political wannabes lied about it because he thought he could get away with it by simply not showing the whole sale page?
>
> He _did_ show the whole page you lying piece of shit.

Indeed, I showed the whole sale page!

<snip>

> Jute list
> 2. Repeatedly accusing people of being on welfare. He worries that he'll end up on welfare.
> Mister Andre Jute McCoy, a writer of vanity novels and diarrhea-mouthed, long winded poster to the Usenet - where he pretends to be famous.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bandon,_County_Cork&oldid=127907139#People

What Tom apparently hasn't mentioned is that one of the root causes of
the current spike in prices is the effect of the war in Ukraine,
especially on the prices of food and oil. The war in Ukraine is directly
related to Trump's illegal withholding of congressionally approved
military aid to Ukraine. Had that aid been provided as scheduled, Putin
would likely not have invaded.



funkma...@hotmail.com

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Dec 30, 2022, 2:02:51 PM12/30/22
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Trump witholds money to play political games at putins "request", Putin invades. Whodathunkit! (yes, I know that's a vast over simplification rife with misconceptions - I'm just following the m.o. of right wing media (see: Fucker Carlson))

Frank Krygowski

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Dec 30, 2022, 2:15:50 PM12/30/22
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On 12/30/2022 10:59 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 12:30:10 AM UTC-8, Catrike Rider wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 16:37:15 -0800 (PST), Frank Krygowski
>> <frkr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 5:55:14 PM UTC-5, sms wrote:
>>>> It's important that Tom learn how to
>>>> shop for beef, which can vary wildly in price from store to store and
>>>> from week to week.
>>>
>>> That may be important to Tom, given his (apparently) desperate financial situation.
>>> My mother, like many raised during the depression, knew how to shop for bargains.
>>> She would travel from store to store to get the best buys.
>>>
>>> I simply don't worry about prices. My wife and I shop at what's considered the most
>>> expensive nearby grocery store. Why? Because it's the most pleasant one to ride a
>>> bike to. (Well, there's another that's also a nice ride, but its quality is lower.) I don't
>>> even know what we're paying per pound for beef, or for anything else. It doesn't matter.
>>> I can easily afford it.
>>>
>>> - Frank Krygowski
>> We live well within our means, too, but many in the USA do not.
>> Inflation is a real problem, even if the politicians, the media, and
>> leftist clowns downplay it.
>
> I had to know what that was all about and I called a friend and he sent me Scharf's posting.

:-) Ha! Funny!

Nobody believes you, Tom. Nobody.

> As for Frank, let's watch what he has to say in the next 18 months as inflation continues right through the middle of a recession that some are predicting to be a depression.

You've been making those predictions for at least 5 years. I've made
thousands of dollars of charity donations this year, and I'm still not
done.

> Frank is on what is termed "fixed income" whereas I make money from my investments every month usually. When I said that I made $12,000 on my investments the previous month I didn't mention that I made $20,000 the previous month. December I don't expect to be any income. But the report is due in a week or so.

Much of the money I donated was generated by my investments. Quit
fantasizing about me being in poverty. It's not even close to true.

> Now we know that Frank rides his tandem 5 miles through sleet and snow to do his shopping because it is a good ride and he doesn't pay any attention to the price of food. I would bet that his wife would have something else to say about that. Didn't Frank tell us a couple months ago that he was through riding for the season?

No, I certainly did not. Again, you're arguing about what you wish or
pretend I said, not what I've actually said.

If you're going to claim I said that, link to my post to prove it.
Hopefully, fruitlessly searching for such a post will keep you quiet for
an hour or so.

--
- Frank Krygowski

Catrike Rider

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Dec 30, 2022, 4:24:54 PM12/30/22
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Brags about wealth, investments, and charity donations need
documentation..

Tom Kunich

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Dec 30, 2022, 4:48:26 PM12/30/22
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This was something I initially had on Facebook but they censored me for saying to someone that you couldn't change a kid's mind by beating him. Then they said that unless I erased that statement off of Facebook and apologized to Facebook for saying it, that my account would remain frozen. I am not about to apologize for saying the truth so my Facebook account is off of the air. That's ok with me. Before my concussion I had a fairly large following so it is Facebook's loss. I would constantly advise people to save their money. Charity is all well and fine but if it doesn't start at home you become dependent on the charity of others

Frank wants us to believe that HE makes charitable donations when I am sure that since he was a teacher and has no sense of the worth of money that would be something that his wife would handle.

John B.

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Dec 30, 2022, 5:31:44 PM12/30/22
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But, having read Tommy's posts for some time I would question whether
"Tommy's world" is real or only imagined.. Most of his posts are so
bizarre that it does seem as though he lives in a world totally
foreign to reality.
--
Cheers,

John B.

Jeff Liebermann

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Dec 30, 2022, 8:42:47 PM12/30/22
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 07:59:09 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Frank is on what is termed "fixed income" whereas I make money
>from my investments every month usually. When I said that I made
>$12,000 on my investments the previous month I didn't mention
>that I made $20,000 the previous month. December I don't expect
>to be any income. But the report is due in a week or so.

Nice lie. Stifel, whom you previously claimed manages your $2 million
investments[1], is required to disclose their holding to the SEC 60
days after the end of their fiscal quarter. Most funds report 30 days
after the end of a quarter. For 4th quarter, which for Stifel ends on
Jan 27, 2023, you'll probably see the numbers a little after April 27,
2023. There will not be a report "in a week or so".

Nobody reports investment holdings a few days after the end of a
fiscal quarter. If this is any indication of how much you know about
investing, my suspicion is that you don't have, and have never had,
any investments.

Quarterly earnings reports:
<https://www.stifel.com/investor-relations/earnings-releases>
Incidentally, Stifel is up in some types of investments such as wealth
management, but down in investment banking. You might want to look at
the most recent report starting on Pg 3:
<https://www.stifel.com/docs/pdf/InvestorRelations/Earnings/2022/2022_Q3.pdf>


[1] 12/25/2022
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/njA7DYpUtww/m/uTnjTb6DAwAJ>
"I'm worth nearly two million now and can live almost entirely on my
social security. Can you? Even with my expensive bicycle hobby I own
less than $1,600 TOTAL. And I knocked my bank account down to just
enough to cover emergencies since the Democrats are now attacking
banks which will drive them into bankruptcy."

I like the part where you wrote "I own less than $1,600 TOTAL". That's
obviously a typo error, but could also be the only true statement in
your posting.

sms

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On 12/30/2022 2:31 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 07:25:50 -0800 (PST), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

>> I can't imagine living the hell he lives in. I'm not saying my area isn't without it's problems, but it certainly is orders of magnitude better than the world tommy lives in.
>
> But, having read Tommy's posts for some time I would question whether
> "Tommy's world" is real or only imagined.. Most of his posts are so
> bizarre that it does seem as though he lives in a world totally
> foreign to reality.

Definitely imagined. Living in the same region as him, it's quite
amazing as to the level of lying that he engages in.

Jeff Liebermann

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Dec 30, 2022, 9:04:31 PM12/30/22
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 06:27:20 -0800, sms <scharf...@geemail.com>
wrote:

>On 12/29/2022 5:54 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> If I need a hamburger fix, I buy Boca Burger:
>> <https://www.bocaburger.com>
>> <https://www.safeway.com/shop/product-details.148010287.html>
>> $5.50 for 4 patties.
>
>Those are awful! If you want a beef alternative, try a black bean
>burger. I tried an Impossible Whopper once, which was okay, though not
>as good as a beef Whopper.

Boca Burgers are good enough for me. The taste or flavor is not in
the patty. Think of it as a substrate. On top of that, I pile on the
condiments (ketchup, mustard, relish, lettuce, onions, etc) which
provides the flavor. That also allows me to vary the taste from bland
(my usual) to spicy (when I need self abuse). Also, I have problems
with some types of beans which sometimes give me flatulence.

I have tried some of the other veggie burger formulations. Morningstar
Farms has a nice assortment that I like.
<https://www.safeway.com/shop/product-details.960159348.html>
Boca Burgers has quite simple ingredients and as more soy than wheat.
Morningstar has more ingredients and have more wheat than soy.

>> About once a year, I feel a craving for a McDonald's burger, french
>> fries and a soda. It really tastes good, but I always end up with a
>> major stomach ache an hour or two later. Most other beef products
>> have the same effect. Apparently, I have to teach my digestive system
>> how to tolerate meat.
>
>Just don't pay $13/pound for tri-tip. That will really give you a
>stomachache.

Don't worry. I won't buy expensive meat cuts. My weakness is fish,
especially salmon. $23/lb at Costco as of about 3 weeks ago.

John B.

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On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 17:42:39 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
wrote:
I read that the average stock market return is about 10% per year for
nearly the last century, as measured by the S&P 500 index.
If we assume that figure then logically the average increase will be
approximately 10/12 or 0.83% per month.

Tommy specifically mentions that he made $20,000 in one month so his
total investment would have to be in the neighborhood of 2.5 million.

And he complains about the cost of groceries, talks abut an old second
hand Ford and worries about losing his newly re-married wife's Social
Security.

Some how the multi million brag and the second hand Ford don't seem to
match :-)

--
Cheers,

John B.

Frank Krygowski

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Dec 31, 2022, 11:16:00 AM12/31/22
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On 12/30/2022 9:04 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> My weakness is fish,
> especially salmon. $23/lb at Costco as of about 3 weeks ago.

We love salmon. Sorry, I can't say what our local price is. I just buy
it because we like it. Price isn't important.

--
- Frank Krygowski

sms

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On 12/29/2022 1:26 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 3:26:59 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> After the Communists here proclaiming that I was lying about a roast costing that much the Lucky Supermarket sales sheet came around yesterday and the SALE price of a BONE IN tri tip Roast was $13/lb.
>>
>> People like Krygowski and his cohorts will be actually reduced to eating bug to get protein before long I'll remember them when I'm eating a sirloin steak.
>
> You said a "small" roast, asshat.
>
> A 3 pound roast would be $39. In order to be $123 it would have to be over 9#. A 9 pound roast is by NO means "a small roast". A 3 # roast will feed a family of 4 with leftovers for a few days.

Good news for Tom. Tri tip roast is $2.99/pound, January 4-10 2023 at
his local Safeway, see <https://i.imgur.com/jcJs5pE.jpeg>.

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